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Facebook Page vs. Facebook Group – the Marketer’s Guide

Facebook Page vs. Facebook Group – the Marketer’s Guide

Facebook offers three ways to build presence for you or your brand: a profile, a fan page and a group. While you are unable to create the latter two without the profile (which means you can’t do without creating the personal profile first), these three social media entities provide for different networking and marketing opportunities.

Traditionally, Facebook Pages have been used to promote a business, band, shop, etc while Facebook groups have been used to promote a common interest. Over the past two years, Facebook has focused their efforts in promoting Facebook Pages as the strongest marketing vehicle of the three by by creating embedded widgets and thus providing marketers with effective tools to promote their pages externally and build the fan base.

Nevertheless, these lack functionality as networking tools. Pages are less effective than profiles in building relationships and simultaneously less powerful than groups for promoting discussions and having two-way interactions with your following.

This post offers a comprehensive comparison in marketing capabilities between all three vehicles on Facebook.

Note: Profile pages aren’t directly comparable to Groups and Fan Pages given they’re compulsory in the creation of the latter two.

Sharing Options and Visibility

Your profile, fan page and group all have privacy settings that enable you to control sharing permissions and visibility. Here is how these differ among the three:

Facebook profile Facebook fan page Facebook group
Set who can update the wall yes yes yes
The differences You can set the update visibility globally AND on case-to-case basis. You can only choose who can update the page wall: admins only or all members You can set global settings separately for links, videos and photos
How? Account tab -> Privacy settings Edit page -> Wall settings Group settings



Note: There’s one weird thing about sharing for admins within the page: when you (as admin) are trying to post something at you page wall, you get “non-personalized” – posting as a page (not as yourself).

Promotion Tools

Facebook Pages are known to have more visibility and (viral) marketing potential than groups due to these important features:

  • They are displayed in each fan’s profile “Info” tab
  • They are public and can be linked to externally
  • They have various widgets that allow for external promotion (e.g. from a company blog)
  • They can be added added as your “Page favorites”
Add page to favorites

In this case the page thumbnail will be added to the “Favorites” box of another Fan page you manage:

Add page to favorites

To make a long story short, here’s a quick recap of page versus group versus profile (viral) marketing-friendliness:

Facebook profile Facebook fan page Facebook group
Private? (seen after you register and become fan/friend) Yes No Yes (BUT: discussions are public and crawled)
Usernames? (facebook.com/username/) Yes (Should be verified via mobile phone) Yes No
Visible within fan / friend profile? Yes (Friends box) Yes (Info tab) No
Promoting to friends “Suggest friends to…” (one by one) “Suggest to friends” (one by one) “Invite people to join” (one by one)
“Import from email”



Important note: This section wouldn’t be complete if I missed the important difference in diction:

  • Profiles “add” each other as “friends
  • Members “join” groups
  • Members “like” fan pages (Which is easy to do from the embedded widget, yet “unliking” is just as easy.)

In this perspective, fan pages imply the lowest rate of active participation. You don’t join (to participate), you “like” (=express your approval or appreciation) and may unlike any time.

Branding Options

In some cases, the two of these can’t be compared: for example when it comes to branding, both the profile and the page are necessary. You need a profile to network and promote your personal brand while you need a fan page to promote your company (that is, a profile gives you visibility as a person while a page links to your website).

Facebook profile Facebook fan page Facebook group
Usernames? (facebook.com/username/) – branded URLs Yes Yes No
Visible within fan / friend profile? Yes (Friends box) Yes (Info tab) No
Visible from outside Facebook? Partially (but generally rank high in Google) Yes (branded widgets are available to promote it) No
(Branded) customization? Some Plenty of options (via apps and setting the default tab) Almost no



Note: The ability to install awesome applications to a page as well as set different landing pages for the “default tab” makes Fan Pages much more flexible and customizable than profiles and groups.

Connecting to Members, Fans and Friends

The main (and perhaps only) advantage of a Group is that these offer the ability to message all the members via Facebook mail (and therefore to reach them, most often, by e-mail).  In comparison, a Facebook Page’s mass message will come as an “Update” which is much harder to notice:

Facebook updates

Another important difference (if not a bug) is how Groups and Pages treat Facebook Events: While you can create related Events with a Page, you cannot invite all your Fans with a click. This means you have to manually add guests from your friends list (NOT the fan list). Groups allow you to host an event and automatically invite all Group members.

Another weird thing worthy of a mention is that as the Event creator and the Admin of a Fan Page, you cannot message your Event guests. Instead, you are obligated to appoint someone else to be the Admin of the event and have them message your guests-to-be.

All in all, the major communication differences are briefly outlined in this table:

Facebook profile Facebook fan page Facebook group
Mass-messaging No Yes (comes as an “update”) Yes (comes as a Facebook message with email alert)
Events No Yes (no way to invite all your fans) Yes (with mass-invitation ability)



Important note: You will NOT be able to invite the members of a host Group to an Eevent if the group has over 5,000 members.

Conclusions

It is unclear why Facebook decided to go with two limited functionalities instead of making at least one complete tool. Having tried both and discussed them multiple times in various communities, I have come to the conclusion that in order to make the most of your Facebook marketing efforts, both a Fan Page and Group should be created. Given each has its own unique advantages, a creative approach that tackles each of these will bring the most visibility. For example, you can create a traditional Fan Page for your business and a Group for relevant discussions – and analyze how each one contributes to your campaign goals.

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Comments

  1. Tom Schmitz says:

    A profile can mass-invite all friends to an event by placing this java script in the browser address bar:

    javascript:elms=document.getElementById(‘friends’).getElementsByTagName(‘li’);for(var fid in elms){if(typeof elms[fid] === ‘object’){fs.click(elms[fid]);}}

    • Ann Smarty says:

      Hey Tom, I don’t think this works with me here. I am using FireFox. Did I miss any important step?

    • Hi! I tried to paste this into my browser and it didnt work, is it compatible with Chrome? I would assume so right?

    • Jasper Ong says:

      Yes, it does work for Firefox and Chrome.

      Go to your Event/Group/Page, “Suggest to friends” and then paste this snippet in the URL field of your browser before hitting enter.

      javascript:elms=document.getElementById(‘friends’).getElementsByTagName(‘li’);for(var fid in elms){if(typeof elms[fid] === ‘object’){fs.click(elms[fid]);}}

      Your invitations will not be sent yet, but all your friends will be selected. Click the “Invite” or “Send” button on the Facebook page to send out the invites.

      • Ann Smarty says:

        Oh thanks, Jasper. This way it does seem to work. Thanks!

  2. Brian Honey says:

    Good comparison of the various page options. I recently went through this process with a client that had a fairly substantial following on their Group page. It’s been a slow transition moving to their new Fan page, but it’s coming along.

    I have heard some anecdotal stories about Facebook aiding in this conversion, even automatically “converting” Group members to “Fans” in one fell swoop. I haven’t been able to confirm this independently – but it would sure be useful.

    • Ann Smarty says:

      Hey Brian, Interesting! I’ve heard about the transition process from the group to the page but never tried that in practice. Their official help page says there’s no way to do that! http://www.facebook.com/help/?page=904

      • Brian Honey says:

        I’ve found that as well… The official line is it’s not possible. I’m guessing the story I came across (no link, and I can’t replicate the search for it!) happened back when Fan Pages were first introduced, and someone who had a VERY large number of Group members received the “service” at that time.

        As my client only had around 800 Group members, we’ve gotten nearly two thirds to convert over to the Fan page.

        I know they’re growing and modifying services, but it makes me wonder what will happen next…

  3. Thanks! I appreciate you explaining the differences between pages and groups.

  4. Roman B. says:

    Thanks for some useful info, Ann!
    But I have one remark: one CAN actually create a Fan Page without having a Profile (I’ve created a bunch of them :)). But in such a case there is no “Search” line and other useful stuff on the FB website page, which makes using it extremely uncomfortable.

    • Ann Smarty says:

      Oh really. I didn’t know that you could create a fan page without being logged into your personal account. Thanks for the comment!

  5. Jia says:

    In other words, the fan page and group page is designed for one purpose each as a feature. A cohesive approach can make it better.

  6. Great post. Facebook really needs something like this on their help pages. They seem to be constantly playing with all these variations which is incredibly frustrating when deciding which to use especially because there is no system from switching from one type of page/group to another.

  7. Mitchell says:

    Great post. One thing I’m still unclear on, is whether or not you can post updates as an admin to the group that are non-personalized – ie: coming from the group, instead of you. I have seen other people do it but I can’t figure out how.

    • Ann Smarty says:

      I am pretty sure all messages sent to group members come from the group, not as your personal message…

      • Mitchell says:

        What about status updates though? Or can groups not post status updates? I thought they were changing it so they could, but when I try to post something to the wall it comes from my personal account.

        • Ann Smarty says:

          Oh got it, sorry.

          No, as far as I know you can only comment as person on your Group wall.

  8. Barry says:

    I’ve scoured the internet and have not been able to find a single website on the troubleshooting side of these Pages. Since this article and comments are relatively new, I’ll try my luck here, so it goes…

    I have a Fan Page for my band, therefore, we have a lot of Events (ie shows) going on. My issue is, when invitees post on the Events wall, I’m unable to reply/comment as the band, instead, the reply/comment is coming from the generic Profile [that was used to create the Fan Page]. I know it’s possible to reply/comment as the band on the Events wall, because I’ve seen other bands able to do this, however, not me [as the band]. What am I doing wrong and/or setting I’m missing?

    • Ann Smarty says:

      Sadly, I am not aware of any way to change it. Have you tried other admins (NOT creators) to comment? How do their comments appear?

  9. Dr. Samimul Moula says:

    We started a facebook page with a common interest about an issue and now it already got large amount of postings and numbers of members. We desire to covert this page in to a group in the same name, a group page is also created, but how to covert or link this page with all of its already got contents with the group? Is there any way to do that? Please suggest!

    • Ann Smarty says:

      I don’t really think it is possible or I am just unaware of the way to do that. Maybe some of the commenters will find the way!