Ever since Facebook has introduced the new type of pages “Community pages” there has been plenty of talking around them: Facebook has been actively criticized for threatening brands that are building presence in the network.
First let’s briefly and clearly define what community page really is. The Facebook Community Page is meant to be the collection of knowledge around some concept, phenomenon or aspect of life. What makes it dangerous for brands is that those aspects of life can be popular brands as well. The community page can be of two types: (1) automatically generated by Facebook and (2) user-created.
- (1) The automatically created community page is the mix of user-generated and Wiki content: it is pulled from Wikipedia (general info, logo) and shared-with-everyone member updates.
- (2) The user-created community page is (almost) exactly the same as the regular Facebook page with easier creation process (fewer limitations and TOS to bypass when creating one). The huge difference between the user-generated community page and the fan page is that once the community page gets too popular, it becomes the property of the community: you lose your admin rights.
So to make the long story short, here’s the quick recap of differences between the three types of pages within Facebook:
| Facebook Page | Facebook Community Page (user-created) | Facebook Community Page (automatically-generated) | |
| Created by a user (and managed by the user) | yes (yes) | yes (until it gets popular) | no (no) |
| Content | Around a brand, business, artist, etc | Around some common interest as well as a brand, business, artist, etc | Around some common interest as well as a brand, business, artist, etc |
So why are they being so actively discussed? The first and the most serious problem is that community pages and official “brand” pages get mixed up. They both appear in Facebook search side by side and there’s no way to tell which of the two is the “community” page and which is the official page the marketer wants you to connect to. The widely discussed example of this is JCPenney search on Facebook which pulls both the page types (and the official one is not necessarily goes #1 though it is much more popular).
Anyway, you as a marketer can be very disappointed and even scared by the move. You can blog and talk about the feature in public in a hope you will be heard and something will change. But while you are doing that, make sure you are still doing something actionable to protect your brand and promote it.
So let’s talk about what and why you need to do to make sure the Facebook Community pages won’t hurt your brand.
1. Search Rankings
The Anatomy of Facebook PAGE Search
To search within Facebook pages, you need to click through PAGES tab – while pages do rank high in “General” Facebook search as well, we only look at Page-specific search here to get a clearer understanding of its anatomy:

So looking at search results returned for your query, you will be able to instantly see:
- Each page name;
- The number of people who “liked” each page;
- The category of the page.
Tip! You can easily tell the community page from the “traditional” page in Facebook internal search by looking at the category. Community pages have no categories; they are labeled simply as “Page”:

Note: Thanks to integration with Facebook’s Open Graph protocol, sites like TripAdvisor.com and Yelp are now showing up in Facebook’s search results, with links back to their website. So chances are you may see “external” (non-Facebook) results in Facebook page search results. You can tell those by looking at their domains:

So what are the rankings factors?
That would be too easy if the number of “Likes” was the only parameter to rank pages in search results. Unfortunately, this is not the case:

If we start speaking logically, we can assume that the combined “relevance” is the factor: for example, a person who talks all about traveling, has plenty of photos about his traveling experience and “Likes” the Allegiant Air page in “Traveling” category, his “vote” may be much more powerful than a vote from a random Facebook user who knows almost nothing about traveling. But these are all just assumptions. It is unlikely that we ever be able to figure the exact algorithm.
What we need to know now is how to handle Facebook search results given the current state of things.
So let’s see what we can do.
Community Pages and Your Marketing Efforts
1. Monitor ALL community pages related to your brand.
What this means is the following:
- Find all community pages created for your business and sign up for them. Facebook allows to sign up to put yourself on the list of possible administrators, and also suggest your site to be featured on the page and become the source of content:
- Find all related community pages (on the same topic) and “Like” them. Remember that Community pages were created to tightly connect and organize the users’ interests. So the more relevant things you like, the stronger your vote might be.
To create the list of all related and relevant community pages, use both Facebook and Google search as Google indexes the wide range of Facebook pages.
2. Make sure your Wikipedia page content is accurate and complete: Remember that the massive amount of the auto-generated community page content is pulled from Wikipedia (including the logo and the general information tab):
3. Keep promoting your official Facebook page: The number of “Likes” and interactions must be playing the great role in Facebook ranking algorithm.
4. Use Facebook search regularly to get an idea of how your official page positions move up and down in the search results depending on your efforts.
Lastly, don’t get desperate. In the end, you don’t (and don’t have to) own Facebook search results. In the end, Facebook search is no worse than Google search where plenty of third-party results (like Wikipedia, popular blogs and review aggregators) may rank high and even outrank official sources. The key is not to own the results, the key is to keep everything monitored to be able to react to changing algorithms and rankings.
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Great article! I love your use of charts and pictures to simplify things. =)
Facebook has been annoying me lately however because every time I try to create a community page, it seems to work but the page looks more like a fan page than a community page. I’ve tried a dozen times and each time they all look like fan pages, even though I enter the info using the community page section. It makes no sense. Have you had any luck with creating a community page?
Yes, Rania, like I said in the post a user-created community page looks the same as the “traditional” (previously “fan”) page – the only difference is that it (i.e. community page) is not categorized and once it becomes popular, it no more belongs to (or is administered by) the creator.
That’s so strange. Thank you for clarifying.
Ann – what about creating multiple community pages as the marketer? Maybe this could be a way to own more search results and even if the page gets “confiscated” by FB once it becomes popular, then most of the content on there will have been seeded originally by the brand or Marketer…
Another technique that comes to mind would be to participate in these community pages as much as possible as the official brand and to make the community feel rewarded by the brand for their participation and loyalty to the brand in any context.
What do you think of these ideas – do they make sense? Do you think they could be effective?
@Gina, this may be a possible way around but it might b also confusing to the end user. The thing is, for popular brand names, the community pages have been pre-added (automatically), so you cannot do anything about that. On the other hand, if there’s no community page for your brand, it is likely to be never created – so creating it yourself, you are confusing your customer!
As for participating – that’s a great idea! The only thing is that by participating you kind of promote it.
What I think is that you really need to try and measure the response
“Find all community pages created for your business and sign up for them. Facebook allows to sign up to put yourself on the list of possible administrators, and also suggest your site to be featured on the page and become the source of content:”
Where can you do this? I cannot find it anywhere on the community page or in Facebook’s help.
Thanks for the article and explaining where that extra page for my business suddenly came from :P
All you have is Facebook search. You can search for your brand name and/or for your product name.
You can also search Google for [site:facebook.com your brand name here] to get some results.
Right but what I was asking was where do you “…sign up to put yourself on the list of possible administrators…” for the community page that facebook auto created?
Click “Sign up” link on top of the page – it should sign up you automatically. The window will say: “Thank you for wanting to improve this Community Page. We’ll let you know when we’re ready for your suggestions.”
I am trying to create an official Facebook page for my business. I already own the domain name and have registered the company at Companies House, as well as registering the content of the site with The UK Copyright Service. I am also in the process of sorting out getting the trademark registered as well (no remarks on how I should have done this sooner please, because I know) – luckily on that score searching the database on ipo the name isn’t taken in any field and I believe the logo to be unique.
Anyway, I digress – when trying to create an official page for this business under ‘website’ category it says, “Our automated system will now allow the word “…”…If you believe this is an error, please contact our customer service team”. Contacting that sends me to another page where I fill in the details and an email gets sent to my Google inbox saying info@facebook.com is no longer a support channel – and recommends looking at the FAQS under Help – in other words I am going round in circles and will never get the url and official page I want using this procedure. Any ideas? I have sent an email to http://www.facebook.com/help/contact.php?show_form=pages_bug – but I don’t think this will do much.
Can I create a Community Page and then later change this into an official page, or once I have committed to be a community page will I always have that tag? I obviously don’t want the url taking but at the same time want to incorporate some Facebook element into my business. Also can I create a community page for now under a similar url and then hopefully at a later date if the above gets resolved finally get the official url I want – or can an individual only have either a community page or an official page and not both?
Any feedback much appreciated.
Also the name I am after is not rude or offensive, nor is it a generic word like pizza or chocolate. As far as I am concerned it’s just a ‘normal’ business name.
@Matthew, This is not the first time I’ve ever heard a story like that. For example, Facebook won’t allow “Facebook” in the fan page name – one of my friends wrote a book about Facebook and wasn’t able to create a fan page for it.
The only way around is, sadly, to just create a community page and *hope* that Facebook will once figure the problem or get back to you.
Beware though, I am not aware of any way to convert a community page into a “normal” page, so you are most likely to have both (if you once are able to create the latter).
Maybe, at this point you need a community page and a group: http://www.blueglass.com/blog/facebook-page-vs-facebook-group-the-marketers-guide/
Thanks for the response Ann.
Even more peculiar I tried (just out of curiosity) setting up a page where the business is classed as a ‘local business’ rather than a ‘business, brand, organisation’ and it lets me in by the looks of it! It is classed as a page in the URL and when I try and select username it doesn’t let me change it to the name I want, but it says “Blank is not eligible for a username at this time. In the future, Blank will be able to set a username.” It also says when 25 or more people are connected to my page I can select a username for my page – so maybe it will let me create the username I want and subsequently URL. So changing to a local business (which I am not fussed about per se) seems to have made a difference albeit with the ugly numbers contained within my URL. I will be a lot more happy when I get 25 people to test out the desired username. I will keep you posted.
Something I should also mention which to me makes no sense, is that without appreciating the page was created (due to being taken aback that I managed to get through that barrier I mentioned in my previous post finally!) for some reason I navigated away from there and without thinking I attempted to create another page with the same name to make double sure (expecting to be refused if I had successfully created it) – again as a local business. It let me and when I checked my pages – there were two with identical names – same URL. I worked briefly on one and left the other completely blank and entering the URL again took me to the edited one rather than the unedited page. This might make perfect sense to yourself and some of the other people on this blog but I am completely bamboozled by it so apologies if what I am saying is common sense.
Thanks for the advice and great blog.
@Matthew, no actually, this doesn’t seem to make sense to me as well. Sounds like tons of bugs in the page creation process.
Yes, please keep us posted of the progress!
This may have changed since your post, but the Community Page (actually, there’s 2) for AboutUs.org just showed up and they are labeled “Organization” and not “Page” so they aren’t as easy to distinguish.
Hey Kristina, interesting. When you say there are two community pages, do you mean one is labeled as “page” and one as “organization”. Is it possible that one was created manually (by some user)? Do they look the same?
It was in the search bar before I hit enter that I saw the two community pages marked as “Organization”. Now I see that if I actually hit enter on the search they call the community pages “Page”. Yay for consistency! Since yesterday they seem to have deleted the extra community page.
It is interesting to know they actually moderate and filter those pages (delete duplicate ones). And yes, weird enough I see it as “Organization” in search suggestions as well.
Strange
Huge and useful article… There is not much people who talked about it and and it’s really relevant…
Congratulations
Hi to all marketing passionated
Hi again,
I have had an update from Facebook. They have responded by saying:
Hi,
We apologize for the delay. For technical reasons, your request could not be processed. Please visit http://www.facebook.com/pages/create.php to submit your Page request again.
I have yet to attempt to claim my organisation page again after this response from Facebook. My reasons are below pending clarification from someone on this forum.
To cut a long story short I have set up a local business page that has a URL of http://www.facebook.com/pages/BUSINESS NAME/LOTS OF NUMBERS (see my post above in this forum). I have yet to get the 25 people need to attempt to choose a URL. Could someone tell me when I do get the 25 members if the URL I select will be in the form of http://www.facebook.com/pages/BUSINESS NAME or http://www.facebook.com/BUSINESS NAME. For instance if I look at http://www.facebook.com/BIG BRAND I get sent to the official page for that organisation. If I enter a URL of http://www.facebook.com/pages/BIG BRAND there is nothing at all other than a page saying this URL doesn’t exist.
The point I am trying to make is that I don’t want to attempt to sign up as an official organisation (if it works this time) and take the http://www.facebook.com/BUSINESS NAME, if after getting 25 members on the other page of http://www.facebook.com/pages/BUSINESS NAME/LOTS OF NUMBERS I can then shorten it to this anyway. I have already uploaded lots of pictures and comments to my other facebook page with the ugly URL, and don’t really want to move all existing pictures and posts unnecessarily if you see what I mean. If someone could provide clarity on this for me that would be great.
Just as a follow on from my previous post about the two pages scenario – I managed to delete the unedited page without this deleting the edited page that had the same URL.
Thanks in advance,
Matthew, I am going to send you an email trying to help :)
Hi! Do you know if it is possible to switch from a Local Business to a Brand if the page has already been created (it was created over 6 months ago)?
I don’t think it is possible, Anne, but you may try to submit a request through Facebook.
Excellent.
Thank you!
Hi Ann, thanks for this great article. This type of information is rare on the Internet.
I work a lot on building brands on Facebook and social networks. I read carefully your article but still have a lot of questions that you’ll maybe answer.
I own a Facebook fanpage with a “generic concept name” not findable in a dictionnary but which already has a long article in Wikipedia. It’s a sport in emergence not really famous for the moment. (example of my fanpage’s name : “Handfoot”, Let’s imagine this sport exists and that it has an article in wikipedia). I own a brand which is called “Handfoot Now” (still an example) but my fanpage is called “Handfoot”.
I gathered 65 000 fans on this fanpage and I would like to secure the page and not to be recategorized in a Community page.
My questions are :
- Am I at risk ?
- What can I do to secure my fanpage ?
- Is there a limit of fan before being categorized (80 000 ? 100 000 ? 200 000 ?)
- Should I make my page private before reaching this number of fans ? Has it an influence ?
- Are there good practices not to be flagged as a “unofficial fanpage” or “community page”.
Thanks for your answer
Rudy, your questions are excellent. I won’t pretend I have the answers though :) as I never came across such a situation.
Let me do some research and if I find the answers, I’ll be sure to keep you updated.
Thanks for your reply. Looking forward your answers. I’m interested in any clue that you could find. I can share some of my knowledge here too. Thanks again