Comments on: Black Hat vs. White Hat Social Media and the Battle for Common Sense

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Why is Community so important in PR and Social Media? « LAF Blog — Thu, 24 Sep 2009 20:15:46 +0000

[...] definition became even more solidified when someone I consider a mentor, Beth Harte, was attacked through a blog in what I considered to be an unprofessional manner. This is a great example of community building [...]

By: Serena

Serena — Wed, 26 Aug 2009 22:06:45 +0000

I went to The BuyerSphere Project session instead – it was amazing

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Sat, 22 Aug 2009 22:02:13 +0000

[...] Kelley, Director of Social Media for 10e20, recently wrote a critical blog post about a panel discussion she attended, Black Hat vs. White Hat Social Media and the Battle for [...]

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Fri, 21 Aug 2009 23:45:25 +0000

[...] Kelley, Director of Social Media for 10e20, recently wrote a critical blog post about a panel discussion she attended, Black Hat vs. White Hat Social Media and the Battle for [...]

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Why is Community so important in social media? « — Tue, 18 Aug 2009 10:51:48 +0000

By: 10e20

10e20 — Mon, 17 Aug 2009 21:44:26 +0000

Hi Teifion,

We noticed a problem where some of the comments were missing – thus in response we had to reimport all the comments. Everything should be back to normal now.

By: rebeccakelley

rebeccakelley — Mon, 17 Aug 2009 20:53:46 +0000

I heard she and Snyder were on a panel together, but I don't know if it was SES NY, nor do I know what her online nickname is.

By: rebeccakelley

rebeccakelley — Mon, 17 Aug 2009 20:20:45 +0000

Thanks, Kristen. I agree with you — lesson learned. Next time I'll try to do a better job of highlighting my point of view without getting too down and dirty.

By: Kristen Escovedo

Kristen Escovedo — Mon, 17 Aug 2009 20:09:29 +0000

Karl,
If your read Rebecca's first post and her edited one, you will see a distinct difference between the two. I can certainly appreciate a "tell it like it is" attitude, particularly in critiques of presentations, since that is part of how I make my livelihood. However, a professional, and I would say, helpful, critique would be offering criticism of the content of the presentation. Personal attacks are neither professional nor helpful.

I don't think that somewhere deep down any of us appreciate that attitude. My guess would be that is why Rebecca removed those comments from her blog. The thing is, I still get the same information without the attacks in the edited version, and my opinion of Rebecca is much better.

And just FYI, Beth doesn't need saving.

By: Kristen Escovedo

Kristen Escovedo — Mon, 17 Aug 2009 19:56:27 +0000

As communications professional I think we have all spent time in conferences listening to people that we don't agree with. Many of us who are speakers and trainers ourselves often think that we could do it better, present it better, and have better ideas. I think that is a given. Although I have never seen Beth in person, I follow her and read her blog, Just like everyone I follow, sometimes I agree with her and sometimes I don't. But I think the lesson learned here is when disagreements happen, writing a blog post filled with personal attacks is never the best course of action.

I'm guessing by your edit and postscript you figured that out as well. That's the bummer about the web – once we put something out there, it is out there and it spreads quickly, especially when you are as well respected and followed as Beth is. I applaud your effort move forward to recover from this mis-step and keep the conversation going.